The joy of doing it right: lessons from 50 billion downloads with Jesse Wilson (Cash App, Google)

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Distributed.

Jack Hannah, Tuple

36 episodes

4 days ago

Remote work is here to stay. Whether you’re firmly in the return to office camp or die hard distributed, the cat’s out of the bag for the industry. The Distributed podcast, from Tuple, deconstructs how world-class engineers and their teams navigate the challenges (and opportunities) remote work creates. Host Jack Hannah uncovers stories of teams and individuals overcoming technical challenges, working through interpersonal dynamics, and battling their own distractions. Through these conversations, we’ll unpack the practical side of how folks work together in this new normal, and dig into the social emotional piece so often overlooked in programming.

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The joy of doing it right: lessons from 50 billion downloads with Jesse Wilson (Cash App, Google)

Distributed.

45 minutes 53 seconds

5 days ago

The joy of doing it right: lessons from 50 billion downloads with Jesse Wilson (Cash App, Google)

In this episode of Distributed, host Jack Hannah talks with Jesse Wilson, a longtime open-source contributor and Cash App engineer, whose work underpins much of the Java and Android ecosystem. Jesse shares why some of the most rewarding engineering work comes from doing things the right way, even when it’s the hard way.

Their conversation dives into the story behind Okio, the I/O library for Android, Java, and Kotlin that’s been downloaded >50 billion times, and what it revealed about craftsmanship, risk-taking, and building for the long term. They also unpack how remote teams can bring back the spark of in-person collaboration by pairing more often, embracing small interruptions, and using shared artifacts to stay aligned.

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Where to find Jesse Wilson:

• Mastodon: https://cosocial.ca/@jessewilson

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/swankjesse

• Blog: https://publicobject.com

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Where to find Jack Hannah:

• LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/jack-hannah/⁠⁠⁠⁠

• Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tuple.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠

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Timestamps:

(00:00) Intro