When Kit Heyam was first trying to understand their gender identity as an adolescent, they looked to history. But they only found stories that painted a very narrow picture of what it means to be trans. Years later, when Kit started studying history professionally, a different picture emerged. They talk to Anita about the trans histories they found from around the globe and how those stories paint a more diverse and messy picture of the ways people have been pushing the boundaries of gender for millennia. Meet the guest: - Kit Heyam is the author of "Before We Were Trans: A New History of Gender" Read the transcript | Review the podcast on your preferred platform Follow Embodied on Instagram  Leave a message for Embodied