In this episode, Hannah and Nicki sit down with Tonia Mamai, Commercial Director at Make Real, an immersive learning studio at the forefront of VR, AR and emerging tech. Witha career spanning innovative content partnerships across publishing and global media brands, Tonia has spent years helping organisations harness new technology to accelerate business outcomes and transform how people learn. She’s also collaborated with leading tech platforms such as Meta, Google and Microsoft, and has delivered award-winning learning solutions across sectors from finance and healthcare to energy, utilities and education.

Together, Hannah and Nicki explore what Tonia enjoys most about bringing VR into organisations and why immersive, experiential learning continues to reshape workplace training. They dive into real use cases that showcase the power of VR for L&D and how organisations are measuring ROI. Tonia also discusses evolving learner behaviours, accessibility expectations, and how Make Real’s tech-agnostic approach ensures the right solutions are deployed to solve real business problems. Looking ahead, Tonia shares her predictions on where VR will make the biggest impact and the emerging trends she expects to accelerate in the next 1–2 years.

If you're curious about the impact and future of immersive learning, this episode is packed with insights you won't want to miss. Schools in session!