In this episode, I sit down with guest Joseph McEvoy, founder of MTM Recruiting, to unpack what it really takes to build, scale, and sustain a recruiting engine inside home services. Joe isn’t guessing—he spent a decade inside one of the largest door-to-door machines in the country and helped scale a company from $100M to over a billion dollars by treating recruiting like sales!This conversation dives deep into:-Why recruiting must be run like a revenue function, not HR-The broken economics of traditional placement fees-How a flat retainer model actually protects both clients and candidates-Why bad recruiting firms burn trust—and how to avoid becoming one-The underrated power of canvassing when digital ads are overcrowded-Why fair pricing is the only way to build a business that lastsWe also get personal—talking about risk, failure, getting burned, and the often-overlooked role your partner plays in whether you win or lose in business. *If you are still unaware, Exit Rich is getting a whole new Facelift soon and changing to Build It to Sell It! So be sure to follow us as we transition to bigger and better than before!  Follow my guest at:-Webpage: https://mtmrecruits.com/ -Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61584559664585#  Follow me on all Social Media: @LanceBachmann Exit Rich: Home Service Secrets with Lance Bachmann Build It To Sell It Conference is where serious business owners go to scale, systemize, and position their company for a profitable exit. This is not another motivational event. This is a real-world, operator-led conference built for entrepreneurs who want clarity, structure, and results. Join us December 7–9 in Hollywood, Florida, for three days of real strategy, real numbers, and real execution. You’ll learn how to grow revenue, build leadership teams, clean up financials, and create a business that buyers actually want. This event is powered by the Build It To Sell It Movement, created by entrepreneurs who’ve built and sold multiple companies across home services, roofing, HVAC, and more. 🎯 WHAT YOU’LL LEARN:• How to scale without chaos• How to increase valuation• What private equity actually looks for• Systems that make your business sellable• How to step out of day-to-day operations 🎟️ Get your ticket here:👉 https://go.buildittosellit.com/2026 🔥 Take the next step:Mastermind: https://www.buildittosellit.com/mastermind/ Shop Tours: https://www.buildittosellit.com/shop-tours/ Sales Training: https://www.buildittosellit.com/sales-training/ Winner’s Circle: https://www.buildittosellit.com/winners-circle/ Movement: https://www.buildittosellit.com/ 🎙 Podcast – Exit Rich: Home Service SecretsApple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-roofing-ceo-playbook-build-it-to-sell-it-with/id1778011846 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/56A2PiqKz3NP6sj1nfSloP Follow Lance BachmannYouTube: @lancebachmannInstagram: @lancebachmannFacebook: LanceBachmannOfficialX: @lancebachmann If you’re ready to stop guessing and start building a real asset, this is your room. #BuildItToSellIt #BusinessConference #EntrepreneurLife #ScaleYourBusiness #BusinessExit #HomeServiceBusiness #CEOlife #PrivateEquity #BusinessGrowth #LanceBachmann