Expansive CEO is a podcast for entrepreneurs, leaders, and visionaries who are ready to build businesses in alignment with their unique energy blueprint.
Co-hosted by 6/2 Pure Manifesting Generator Hannah Chapman and 1/3 Pure Generator Lauren Ammon, the show blends Human Design, Gene Keys, and conscious leadership with real-world business growth strategy.
Each episode explores what it means to build a business that is energetically aligned, emotionally sustainable, and financially grounded. Through conversations, teachings, and reflections, we dive into topics like:
Human Design and Gene Keys as tools for leadership and decision-making
Deconditioning from hustle, pressure, and the “not-self” in business
Building offers, teams, and strategies that honor your natural energy
Identity, purpose, and self-expression as foundations for success
Expanding prosperity without sacrificing wellbeing or integrity
Expansive CEO is for those who know that true success isn't about forcing outcomes—it's about alignment, embodiment, and trust.
This is where business meets self-mastery. This is where expansion begins.
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Expansive CEO is a podcast for entrepreneurs, leaders, and visionaries who are ready to build businesses in alignment with their unique energy blueprint.
Co-hosted by 6/2 Pure Manifesting Generator Hannah Chapman and 1/3 Pure Generator Lauren Ammon, the show blends Human Design, Gene Keys, and conscious leadership with real-world business growth strategy.
Each episode explores what it means to build a business that is energetically aligned, emotionally sustainable, and financially grounded. Through conversations, teachings, and reflections, we dive into topics like:
Human Design and Gene Keys as tools for leadership and decision-making
Deconditioning from hustle, pressure, and the “not-self” in business
Building offers, teams, and strategies that honor your natural energy
Identity, purpose, and self-expression as foundations for success
Expanding prosperity without sacrificing wellbeing or integrity
Expansive CEO is for those who know that true success isn't about forcing outcomes—it's about alignment, embodiment, and trust.
This is where business meets self-mastery. This is where expansion begins.
Stop Avoiding the Numbers: A Human-Centered Approach to Business Finance with Josh Greenbaum | 241
Expansive CEO
52 minutes
2 weeks ago
Stop Avoiding the Numbers: A Human-Centered Approach to Business Finance with Josh Greenbaum | 241
If you're a business owner who feels like you should understand your numbers but secretly hopes they'll just… work themselves out, you're not alone. For a lot of entrepreneurs, money feels heavy, confusing, or even shame-filled—and that disconnect can quietly limit growth, peace of mind, and long-term stability.
In this episode, Hannah Chapman, CFP®, APMA®, CRPC® sits down with author, strategist, and fractional CFO Josh Greenbaum, founder of CFO Minded and author of Numbers Scare Me and Other Excuses. Together, they unpack the real differences between a CFO, CFP, CPA, bookkeeper, and controller, why there is no single “right” financial strategy, and how human understanding—not perfection—creates sustainable businesses. This conversation is about clarity over complexity, confidence over fear, and building a financial team that actually supports the life you want to live.
Why “numbers scare me” is rarely about math—and more often about shame, overwhelm, or lack of context
How CFO thinking differs from tax prep and financial planning, and why you need all three roles working together
What most business owners misunderstand about income, profit, and cash flow (and why $120k revenue ≠ $120k lifestyle)
How human behavior and money psychology impact financial decisions, not just spreadsheets
Why conflicting advice from financial professionals isn't a problem—it's a feature
When AI and automation help—and where human judgment is still essential
How asking better questions (not having perfect knowledge) unlocks better financial outcomes
Connect with Josh here:
Book: https://www.amazon.com/Numbers-Scare-Me-Other-Excuses/dp/0578829762
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshgreenbaum/
Website: https://www.cfominded.com/
Connect with Hannah here:
X² Wealth Planning Website: https://x2wealthplanning.com/
Expansive CEO: https://expansiveceo.com/
Hannah's Website: https://hannahrchapman.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hannah.chapman.cfp
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hannahchapmanfinancialadvisor/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hannahrchapman/
Expansive CEO
Expansive CEO is a podcast for entrepreneurs, leaders, and visionaries who are ready to build businesses in alignment with their unique energy blueprint.
Co-hosted by 6/2 Pure Manifesting Generator Hannah Chapman and 1/3 Pure Generator Lauren Ammon, the show blends Human Design, Gene Keys, and conscious leadership with real-world business growth strategy.
Each episode explores what it means to build a business that is energetically aligned, emotionally sustainable, and financially grounded. Through conversations, teachings, and reflections, we dive into topics like:
Human Design and Gene Keys as tools for leadership and decision-making
Deconditioning from hustle, pressure, and the “not-self” in business
Building offers, teams, and strategies that honor your natural energy
Identity, purpose, and self-expression as foundations for success
Expanding prosperity without sacrificing wellbeing or integrity
Expansive CEO is for those who know that true success isn't about forcing outcomes—it's about alignment, embodiment, and trust.
This is where business meets self-mastery. This is where expansion begins.