In this compelling episode of the Exponential Australia Church Leaders Podcast, we sit down with Dianne Jarvey, National Faith Community Development Secretary for The Salvation Army Australia, to explore what it truly takes to catalyse renewal within a historic denomination.With vulnerability, wisdom, and passion, Dianne unpacks the Salvation Army’s intentional journey away from maintenance mode and back to its movemental roots — marked by innovation, inclusion, and grassroots disciple-making. From coffee carts to paddleboard churches, she shares how small, faithful experiments are weaving a powerful spiritual web across the nation.We explore the role of shock absorbers and bridge builders, the theology of innovation, and the importance of permission-giving leadership cultures. Most of all, this is a story of hope: that God is not done with the Church, and that fresh winds of the Spirit are blowing — even in the most unexpected places.Whether you’re a denominational leader, church planter, or pastor navigating change, this conversation will encourage you to dream again, unlearn, and join in what God is already doing.“Be faithful in the little things, and God will do the big things with you.” — Dianne Jarvey