In this powerful and refreshingly grounded conversation, Josh and Berlinda O’Callaghan (Lifehouse Church, Murray Bridge) share their journey of raising up young leaders, sending them out to plant churches, and embracing the rhythms of loss and renewal that come with multiplication. From shrinking youth ministries to church planters rising from the ranks, they unpack what it really means to invest deeply, live incarnationally, and cultivate kingdom-minded leadership in a regional context.Together we explore how planting churches in country towns isn’t a step down, but often the most catalytic move a church can make. With honesty, hope, and hard-won wisdom, Josh and Bel call us to a slower, more relational, Spirit-empowered vision for multiplying leaders and churches—where discipleship looks like training, not just trying, and where every “goodbye” makes room for another “yes” to the mission.Whether you’re leading in the suburbs, the city, or the country, this episode will stir your faith for what’s possible when we see people as Jesus does—and dare to send them.