In this episode, Christopher Holloway and Lauren West spoke with, a ceramic artist and claymation creator, Saint Yocom. 

They discuss the inferno that is art and the diluted smoke of that fire that is commercial production of art. Saint shares with us the process of making his claymation film about loss of his father and how ceramics has influenced his relationship with failure. It was a real treat to talk with Saint for an hour. It's definitely worth listening in.