How do we manage to turn a discussion of zenkai boosts into yet another of our disturbing moments of talking about carnality? Why does Goku do 10,000 reps of his training moves? Where does The Wizard of Oz figure into this? We'll present the information, you tell us if the answer is "anything at all" Join Jelli and Bekinney as they continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon Dragon Ball Z by looking at episodes 56 through 60: "Zarbon's Mission," "Gohan, the Hunted," "Unknown Enemies," "Destination Guru," and "Bulma's Big Day." We continue discussing the Namek Saga and take a look at Vegeta's assertion that Saiyans gain a power boost after facing death. In this episode: Jelli and Bekinney are looking out the window A discussion of how some of the filler here kills the pacing, differently than filler in the past Going back to the Pilaf Arc for a cleanup discussion Comparing Yamcha and Bulma to characters from The Wizard of Oz How the Wizard of Oz utilizes the "it was in you all along" trope and how that was influenced by the bluebird of happiness trope How the bluebird of happiness trope came from the Quran and what influence Journey to the West may have had in bringing in elements of this into Dragon Ball A discussion of Xi Wangmu, the Chinese deity known as the Queen Mother of the West Zenkai boosts A Vegeta impression!? Why zenkai are no longer used, featuring both an in-universe explanation and some head canon that re-defines a certain practice that was most (in)famously utilized by David Carradine (of Kill Bill fame) A Bruce Lee quote concerning the number 10,000 The infamous 10,000 Hours Rule made famous by Malcom Gladwell in his book Outliers What Anders Ericsson, whose research formed the basis for this rule had to say about Gladwell's interpretations A bunch of discussion about practice creating greatness and more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual  Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise. https://www.facebook.com/FinalForumPodcast https://bsky.app/profile/finalforumpod.bsky.social