How do you go from zero to FinOps maturity without losing focus—or momentum? In this episode, host Thalia Elie is joined by Anderson Oliveira, FinOps Account Manager at CloudZero and longtime FinOps leader, to share the repeatable formula he uses to drive real results: visibility, budgeting, and unit economics. From challenging assumptions about cost optimization to crafting business value from every line of spend, Anderson offers a people-first perspective shaped by decades of experience across Brazil, Portugal, and now, CloudZero.

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Key Takeaways:

• FinOps is not about cutting—it’s about delivering value.
• Start with visibility before budgets or unit metrics.
• Every persona sees value differently—aligning perspectives is the real work.
• Cloud spend is a byproduct of engineering decisions—FinOps makes those choices visible and accountable.
• Transformation isn’t rigid—it’s a dance between structure and empathy.

Guest Bio:

Anderson Oliveira is a seasoned FinOps practitioner with over 20 years in IT leadership and transformation. Based in Portugal and originally from Brazil, he now serves as a FinOps Account Manager at CloudZero, where he helps customers align engineering decisions with business value. Known for his frameworks, warmth, and cultural insight, Anderson brings both strategic vision and empathy to every client engagement.