This episode continues our series showcasing programs from around the country and world.  I sat down with the director and designer of Independent A finalist University of Nevada Reno,  Kim Hines and Javier Sosa spoke with me about their 2025 production "If I can't have you", transitioning from an exhibition to a competitive unit, building a program in an isolated area, the crazy IA prelims at Dayton and more!   Also, many thanks to today's sponsor PhilpMarchingFX.  For your indoor or outdoor staging, drill, prop manufacturing needs and more visit PHILPMarchingFX.com