In this episode, Helena and Theodore take the show on the road, talking many things MAHA and more with Jerusha Klemperer, host of the What You’re Eating podcast, from FoodPrint, a nonprofit dedicated to research and education on food production practices. This is a big-picture discussion, trying to figure out if MAHA is a political movement, whether it will last, and most importantly, is it doing any good? Helena focuses on the legislative outcomes at both the federal and state levels, while Theodore suggests that MAHA’s political leaders win even if their policies don’t become law, because their real goal is to tear down institutions.