We talk with Lara Kilani and Cody O'Rourke from Good Shepherd Collective on futures of Palestine, liberation vs. integration, "anti-Zionist" Jewish organizations and their funding, and more. Our discussion is based on Lara's recent article titled "Liberation Is Not Integration: On liberal Zionism, one-state fantasies, and what Palestinians actually want". You can read it on Mondoweiss and the collective's substack The Call. Some other publications referred to during the discussion: - US NGOs and the Nonprofit Industrial Complex - Kings of Famine - about the Palestinian businesses profiting from Israel’s siege on Gaza - Interview with Bilal al-Hassan at Electronic Intifada - Guide for Jewish Anti-Zionist Allyship, Em Cohen and GSC The Good Shepherd Collective is an anti-zionist, anti-colonial and anti-capitalist Palestine advocacy organisation based in West Bank, Occupied Palestine. Follow Good Shepherd Collective on: - Web - Instagram - Twitter Support the people in Gaza:- via The Sameer Project- via Lifeline4Gaza You can reach us on Twitter (@fredshetsarna) and Instagram (@fredshetsarna).