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Future Fuzz - The Digital Marketing Podcast
Justin Campbell
146 episodes
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Experts from the industry speaking about B2B Marketing and Digital Marketing, giving you the listener insights into the best marketing technology to use, new insights and brilliant strategic ideas. Industry experts give insights on how to best run your marketing campaigns and a few laughs on the way!
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Experts from the industry speaking about B2B Marketing and Digital Marketing, giving you the listener insights into the best marketing technology to use, new insights and brilliant strategic ideas. Industry experts give insights on how to best run your marketing campaigns and a few laughs on the way!
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Ep. 145 - Why Clinical Trials Stay Broken - Shawn Malloy
Future Fuzz - The Digital Marketing Podcast
20 minutes 11 seconds
2 weeks ago
Ep. 145 - Why Clinical Trials Stay Broken - Shawn Malloy

In this episode of Future Fuzz, Vince Quinn dives into counter positioning with Shawn Malloy, VP of Marketing at Lindus Health, a company challenging the norms of clinical trials. Shawn unpacks what it means to be an "anti-CRO" in a highly regulated, legacy-dominated industry. He shares how Lindus is transforming clinical research by integrating technology, aligning incentives, and cutting out outdated inefficiencies. This conversation is a must-listen for marketers interested in challenger brand strategy, healthcare disruption, or just building something radically better.

Guest Bio

Shawn Malloy is the VP of Marketing at Lindus Health, a company redefining how clinical trials are run by taking on legacy CROs with speed, transparency, and integrated tech. With a background in engineering and late-stage drug development, Shawn brings deep industry experience from his time at large pharmaceutical companies. His unique perspective, having worked both in product development and now on the marketing frontlines, fuels his passion for creating meaningful, customer-centric change in the healthcare space.

Takeaways

  • Legacy clinical research organizations (CROs) are ripe for disruption.
  • Lindus Health aligns incentives through performance-based pricing.
  • Owning the tech stack reduces delays and improves trial outcomes.
  • Challenger brands must deeply understand customer pain points.
  • Experience on “the other side” boosts credibility and marketing empathy.
  • Education is key when reintroducing a new category or anti-position.

Chapters

00:00 – Intro: What is an Anti-CRO?

01:32 – Why CROs are Broken

03:45 – Stagnation in Clinical Trial Methods

05:30 – Counter Positioning: Shaking Up the Industry

07:19 – Educating the Market on New Models

08:25 – Broken Incentives and Overruns

09:40 – Vertical Integration: Lindus’s Full Tech Stack

11:00 – Shawn’s Shift from Engineering to Marketing

13:45 – Empathy Through Firsthand Experience

16:30 – Building a Challenger Brand: Where to Start

18:38 – Connect with Shawn

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Future Fuzz - The Digital Marketing Podcast
Experts from the industry speaking about B2B Marketing and Digital Marketing, giving you the listener insights into the best marketing technology to use, new insights and brilliant strategic ideas. Industry experts give insights on how to best run your marketing campaigns and a few laughs on the way!