I loved chatting to Vanessa Oliver-Lloyd. Vanessa has such a strong, clear creative voice and she proudly and confidently shares that voice with the world. In this episode we talk about the importance of giving yourself permission to break your own rules and get out of your comfort zone. Vanessa shares how she is working on balancing creating art as a teacher and art that is inspiring her and helping her grow as an artist. We also explore what creating art beyond the journal has felt like and what insights have come up for Vanessa as she has explored this new part of her creative journey.