In this profound and mind-expanding episode of Get Real or Die Trying, host Amadon DellErba sits down in Austin, Texas with philosopher, ex-underground fighter, and consciousness explorer Jesse Elder for one of the deepest conversations you’ll hear all year.

Recorded just weeks after both men lost their fathers (within days of each other), Jesse and Amadon dive fearlessly into the nature of death, grief, and what actually happens when we leave the body. They explore the radical idea that past, present, and future are happening simultaneously, that your soul is playing a cosmic multiplayer game across infinite timelines, and that “death” might just be the best thing that ever happened to you besides being born.

From parallel realities and simultaneous lifetimes to the illusion of authority, the coming collapse of the nation-state, the hidden purpose of fear-based control systems, and why true sovereignty has nothing to do with fighting cops and everything to do with knowing who you really are, this conversation is pure fire.

If you’re ready to question everything you thought you knew about time, death, money, authority, and what it means to be a free human being in 2025 and beyond — this episode will blow your mind wide open.

Warning: This one goes deep. Bring a journal.

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