In this episode, Dr. Antje Ellermann, Associate Professor of Political Science and Co-Director of UBC Migration speaks with two legal scholars, Dr. Efrat Arbel, Associate Professor in the Allard School of Law, and Dr. Ben Goold, Professor in the Allard School of Law. They discuss how the public health crisis is changing immigration procedures at the US-Canadian border and putting additional strain on the rights of refugees and refugee claimants attempting to enter Canada, as well as on other border crossers whose right to privacy is being challenged. They assess the troubled legacy of the Safe Third Country Agreement signed by the US and Canada, the role of contact tracing apps, immigration detention and why the pandemic raises serious concerns about the place of human rights in Canada and beyond. Recorded on June 9 on the traditional, ancestral and unceded territories of the Musequeam people. With music by the Mini Vandals featuring Mamadou Koïta and Lasso.