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After more than 35 conversations listening to other men’s stories, the tables turn – and it’s Dan’s turn in the chair.

In this episode, guest host Ben Rogers interviews Dan Bowsher, founder and host of GoodEnoughChats, about his own experience of burnout, anxiety and clinical perfectionism.

Dan talks about the years he spent pushing himself to exhaustion, the collapse that forced him to stop, and the long, uneven recovery that followed. He reflects on how therapy, medication and self-awareness helped him rebuild, what he’s learned about fear and avoidance, and the shift that came from finally realising that good enough is good enough.

It’s an open and personal conversation about the lasting impact of burnout, the power of small steps, and what it means to live – and work – differently after coming through the fog.

Here are the timestamps for our core questions:

0:00 – Dan’s opener and overview

2:09 – Intro to Dan

6:22 – Why did you come on the show?

11:44 – How was your last week?

15:35 – How has your relationship with your mental health evolved?

55:46 – Have there been any lightbulb moments for you?

1:06:56 – What’s the most important thing someone going through this can do?

More info about the series:

https://goodenoughchats.com

If you’ve been affected by anything raised in this episode, please know you’re not alone. You can speak to someone at:

• NHS – https://www.nhs.uk/nhs-services/mental-health-services/

• CALM – https://www.thecalmzone.net/

• Samaritans – https://www.samaritans.org/how-we-can-help/contact-samaritan/

• Mind – https://www.mind.org.uk/information-support/guides-to-support-and-services/seeking-help-for-a-mental-health-problem/where-to-start/