In the fifth episode, Charlie, Mike, and Nathan are joined by friend of RENEW, and Charlie's former student, Katie Cava, Sustainability Program Manager at Weyerhaueser.

The group drinks the Sculpin IPA from Ballast Point Brewing and discuss the duties of sustainability managers, as well as the close relationship between mitigating climate change, environmental conservation, and fostering equity across human communities.

Listen in and you will also learn about Katie's favorite beer, her first beer, and which historical figure she would choose to sit down and have a drink with.

New episodes coming every other Thursday.