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Grown Man Bars: Remember the Rhyme, Respect the Era
with Chad and Big Absoloot - Gen X Talking Hip Hop
23 episodes
2 days ago
Grown Man Bars is where two Gen X MCs turned opinionated Uncs break down rap culture with no filter. Chad, your resident rap nerd, with Big Absoloot, your OG's OG dive into Golden Era storytelling, lyricism, GOAT debates, classic producers, and the moments that shaped hip hop. From Slick Rick to Scarface, Nas to J. Cole, DJ Premier to RZA. Old rap and new hip hop. If you came up on mixtapes, Tims, and bars that mattered, this is your spot for real hip hop talk. We'll bring you up-to-date on the new hip hop trends, the ones our gen cares about, and hit you with hip hop from the best era ever.
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Grown Man Bars is where two Gen X MCs turned opinionated Uncs break down rap culture with no filter. Chad, your resident rap nerd, with Big Absoloot, your OG's OG dive into Golden Era storytelling, lyricism, GOAT debates, classic producers, and the moments that shaped hip hop. From Slick Rick to Scarface, Nas to J. Cole, DJ Premier to RZA. Old rap and new hip hop. If you came up on mixtapes, Tims, and bars that mattered, this is your spot for real hip hop talk. We'll bring you up-to-date on the new hip hop trends, the ones our gen cares about, and hit you with hip hop from the best era ever.
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Who Can Beat Hov? Catalog Wars: Jay-Z vs LL, Nas, Cube & Wayne
Grown Man Bars: Remember the Rhyme, Respect the Era
54 minutes 34 seconds
2 months ago
Who Can Beat Hov? Catalog Wars: Jay-Z vs LL, Nas, Cube & Wayne

Jay-Z said, “Nobody can stand on that stage with me.” Tonight we test it for real—Verzuz rules: 20 songs, 20 rounds. In classic barbershop fashion, Grown Man Bars lines up the catalog kings across eras and asks who actually has the ammo to beat Hov: LL Cool J, Nas, Ice Cube, Lil Wayne, Drake, Kendrick, Scarface, Rakim, Kane, KRS-One and more. We break down why 20-for-20 is a different sport than “best career,” how crowd, city, and sequencing decide close rounds, and why Wayne and Drake are Hov’s toughest modern matchups—while LL and Cube bring decades-deep problems.

Plus: Absolute Truth on Def Poetry Jam as hip hop’s bridge to spoken word; Lyrical Lockdown dissects LL’s “Mama Said Knock You Out” (don’t call it a comeback); Rap News (Kendrick off the Top 40, RIP Young Bleed, Jeezy’s 101-piece orchestra record); and Book It or Cook It lightning takes (DMX’s impact, Redman today, 1988’s importance, Dungeon Family vs the field).

Pull up a chair, Gen-X—we’re scoring it round by round.


  • 00:00 Cold Open: “Who Really Beats Hov?”

  • 03:00 Jay-Z’s Claim & The 20-for-20 Rule

  • 09:40 Jay’s Legacy by the Numbers

  • 14:30 Golden Era: Nas, Scarface, LL, Rakim, Kane, KRS-One

  • 28:10 Mixtape Era: Wayne, 50, T.I., Luda

  • 38:45 Modern Era: Drake, Kendrick, Cole

  • 47:50 Building the Case For Hov (Sequencing & Strategy)

  • 55:00 Challengers Ranked & Venue Factor

  • 1:03:00 Absolute Truth: Def Poetry Jam

  • 1:10:20 Lyrical Lockdown: “Mama Said Knock You Out”

  • 1:18:00 Rap News (Kendrick, Young Bleed, Jeezy)

  • 1:25:00 Book It or Cook It (Lightning Round)

  • 1:33:00 Final Verdict & Sign-off

  • Grown Man Bars: Remember the Rhyme, Respect the Era
    Grown Man Bars is where two Gen X MCs turned opinionated Uncs break down rap culture with no filter. Chad, your resident rap nerd, with Big Absoloot, your OG's OG dive into Golden Era storytelling, lyricism, GOAT debates, classic producers, and the moments that shaped hip hop. From Slick Rick to Scarface, Nas to J. Cole, DJ Premier to RZA. Old rap and new hip hop. If you came up on mixtapes, Tims, and bars that mattered, this is your spot for real hip hop talk. We'll bring you up-to-date on the new hip hop trends, the ones our gen cares about, and hit you with hip hop from the best era ever.