“How do we keep the human touch as L&D leaders in the AI era?”

In our last episode, we explored how AI is transforming L&D from reactive to strategic, helping leaders prove business value beyond completion rates. This time, we’re shifting our perspective from technology to leadership.

Laura Overton and Michelle Ockers, co-authors of the book The L&D Leader: Principles and Practice for Delivering Business, remind us that while AI can amplify what we do, it’s courage and connection that define how we lead. The technology may evolve, but the heart of L&D leadership stays the same. It’s helping people stay equipped, ready, and connected to meaningful work.

Laura & Michelle have captured 25 years of research into three powerful principles that leaders today can anchor to: Tuning In, Responding, and Improving or TRI. If you’re curious about how you can become a more effective leader, tune in and join me in my curious corner.

Some curious takeaways:

• The best L&D leaders navigate change through context, not control
• AI can’t replace human judgment. It amplifies it
• Courage and agency are the real success indicators for the future of learning

Episode highlights:

(00:00) Welcome to Harald’s Curious Corner

(01:14) What inspired The L&D Leader, and why it matters now

(02:53) The timeless principles behind effective learning leadership

(03:53) Introducing TRI: Tuning In, Responding, and Improving

(05:47) Tuning In: Seeing your organization with fresh eyes

(07:14) Responding: Making smart, human choices in the age of AI

(08:35) How TRI shows up in real L&D work

(13:34) Where AI can elevate the L&D leader

(17:23) Why stakeholder management will never be automated

(25:40) The overlooked power of managers in learning

(31:32) Improving: Measuring what really moves the business

(36:54) How AI helps L&D improve their skills

Connect with the guests:

Laura Overton on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauraoverton/ 

Michelle Ockers on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelleockers/ 

Explore Learning Changemakers: https://www.learningchangemakers.com/ 

Explore Learning Uncut: https://learninguncut.global/ 

Explore the Learning Uncut Podcast: https://learninguncut.global/podcast/ 

Purchase The L&D Leader: Principles and Practice for Delivering Business: https://a.co/d/6Lw5hH0

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