This episode continues the Heal NPD Seminar Series, featuring Dr. Mark Ettensohn and his associates, Deanna Young, Psy.D., and Danté Spencer, M.A. In this session, the group discusses Principles of Psychodynamic Treatment for Patients with Narcissistic Personality Disorder by Holly Crisp, M.D., and Glen Gabbard, M.D. The conversation explores how psychodynamic clinicians conceptualize and treat narcissistic personality disorder, emphasizing the disorder’s pleomorphic nature - its capacity to take many forms depending on context, stress, and level of personality organization. Themes include the oscillation between grandiose and vulnerable self-states, the role of shame as a central organizing affect, and the therapist’s challenge of moving flexibly along a supportive–interpretive continuum. The group also examines common transference and countertransference dynamics, the integration of Kohut’s and Kernberg’s models, and the transformative role of rupture and repair in the therapeutic process. Through candid discussion, clinical reflection, and moments of humor, the seminar illustrates how empathic attunement, flexibility, and authentic connection form the heart of effective treatment for pathological narcissism. This series is designed for clinicians, students, and anyone interested in a deeper and more nuanced understanding of narcissism, personality, and the process of psychological healing. To learn more about our work, visit www.HealNPD.org. Citation for the article discussed: Crisp H, Gabbard GO. Principles of psychodynamic treatment for patients with narcissistic personality disorder. Journal of Personality Disorders. 2020 Mar;34(Suppl):143-158. doi: 10.1521/pedi.2020.34.supp.143. PMID: 32186987.