In this episode we chat with Amy, wife and stay at home mama to 2 children. The birth of her daughter was a Caesarian section with a private obstetrician and on feeling a sense of loss about her first birth experience Amy went on to have a VBAC home birth with a private midwife and doula for her son. We talk about her long birth, how she didn't feel strong enough in her first pregnancy to say no to doctors and that vaginal birth felt important enough to them to really get educated and make that happen for the second birth.