This might be the most important conversation about drugs you’ll ever hear. Fernando Montero, an anthropologist from Columbia University, actually lived among drug dealers in Philadelphia’s Kensington neighborhood to understand how America’s street drug economy really works.

We talk about how the War on Drugs created the fentanyl crisis, why arresting dealers only makes overdoses worse, and Fernando’s groundbreaking idea of training drug dealers to save lives.

It’s raw, brilliant, and unlike anything you’ve ever heard about fentanyl, addiction, and the drug supply. Watch or listen, and share! Everyone needs to hear this.