If you’ve been following Shelby Dennis (aka Milestone Equestrian / @sdeques on social media), you know she doesn’t shy away from the hard conversations. She’s a passionate advocate for horse welfare, uncovering the harsh realities of the horse industry, and pushing for real change. Shelby is a professional horse trainer and equine behavior consultant with over 24 years of experience across multiple disciplines—including Arabian showing, hunter/jumpers, dressage, and even racehorses. She’s also taken her education seriously, working toward her Certificate of Equine Science and earning her Equine Behavior Consultant certification through IAABC. Her approach to training has evolved massively over the years, moving away from traditional punishment-based methods toward a more ethical, science-backed way of working with horses. She’s an incredible voice in the equestrian space, and I have so much admiration for the work she’s doing! In this episode, we dive into: 🐴 What sparked Shelby’s passion for horse welfare and the personal experiences that led her to advocate for change.🐴 How Shelby’s training has evolved over the years from punishment-based to reward-based.🐴 The biggest welfare concerns in the industry—harsh training methods, equipment, poor management, and a widespread lack of understanding of horse behavior.🐴 The moment Shelby started questioning traditional training and horse-keeping practices.🐴 The challenges of holding top riders accountable while leaving room for them to grow.🐴 Social media as both a tool for change and a platform for cancel culture—where’s the line?🐴 Why abuse persists at the top levels of competition, despite being more exposed than ever.🐴 Corruption in the horse world.🐴 Shelby’s vision for a better equestrian industry—and realistic changes that could actually happen.🐴 The million-dollar question: Do horses truly enjoy being ridden and competing?🐴 Ethical concerns beyond competition—how to spot truly ethical horsemanship.🐴 Two trainers setting a better example in horse sports.🐴 The use of R+ and R- in training—can pure R- ever be ethical?🐴 How Shelby handles backlash when calling out unethical practices.🐴 Debunking the “if the horse didn’t want to, they wouldn’t” myth.🐴 What keeps Shelby motivated to keep advocating for change.🐴 Common misconceptions about her work.🐴 Shelby’s personal goals with horses and training.🐴 Favorite horse books, resources, and what she’s currently learning.🐴 Plus SO much more! This conversation is eye-opening, thought-provoking, and (at times) confronting. Shelby’s bravery in speaking out—even in the face of backlash—is truly inspiring, and I know you’re going to take so much away from this episode. Let’s dive in! 🎧✨ ______ 🔗 LINKS MENTIONED IN TODAY’S EPISODE:   Where you can find out more about Shelby:   Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sdequus/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/milestoneequestrian96 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@sdequus YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjNgasvyRwPmnXY11m4Lacg Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/sdequus Website: https://milestoneequestrian.ca/ Podcasts:  Making Milestones: https://open.spotify.com/show/3s8mJIS4vt2uAxzg8mXFGk Mane Character Energy: https://open.spotify.com/show/3og2h8PNWWrQV21aEWPxDk _____ 📚 Shelby’s Recommended Books: The Other Side of Horsemanship: My Journey of Unlearning Cruelty & Healing Trauma by Shelby Dennis Language Signs and Calming Signals of Horses: Recognition and Application by Rachaël Draaisma Equitation Science by Paul McGreevy and Andrew McLean Equine Behavior: A Guide for Veterinarians and Equine Scientists by Paul McGreevy The Myth of Normal: Trauma, Illness, and Healing in a Toxic Culture by Gabor Maté with Daniel Maté The Gift of Fear: Survival Signals That Protect Us from Violence by Gavin de Becker   _______   EXTRA RESOURCES TO HELP YOU AND YOUR HORSE:   📚 Book & Resource List: Get all the books & recommendations mentioned on the podcast → amaliadempsey.com/bo