In this episode, Jim and Steve sit down with Bain Farris, a veteran healthcare executive with decades of leadership experience across hospitals, health systems, and payers. Bain shares what he learned over a career spent building stronger partnerships between hospital leadership and physicians—and why real engagement is key to meaningful change.

From the early days of physician-hospital collaboration to today’s push toward ambulatory and home-based care, Bain discusses what’s worked, what hasn’t, and what future leaders need to understand about how healthcare delivery is shifting. Along the way, he reflects on the transition from hospital-centered care to a more distributed system and how systems must adapt if they want to stay relevant.

If you’re leading or working inside a healthcare organization today, Bain’s stories and insights offer lessons that are as relevant now as ever.