Contrary to the title, Vanessa and Ariane do their best to keep this episode light. Vanessa shares Jonny Thomson’s pillars of happiness, and the conversation gently weaves through topics like migration, depression, and the deep human need for community. We talk about the weight of sadness—and how, with the right support, you don’t have to carry it alone.Take care of yourselves. Enjoy the episode. As a bonus to this episode we added a playlist. If you relate to any of the tracks please do the needful but enjoy the cool tracks!

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1JajANfPCIihd0byvCZSSv?si=7df1e09459b1454c