In this conversation with Rosa, Jason explores how her desire to live a kind, helpful, community-centered life has been shaped by her family story, long-term relationship, and spiritual background. Rosa shares honestly about her partnership, mixed feelings about marriage, and how growing up with older parents left her both yearning for commitment and afraid of feeling trapped.

She opens up about the deep anxiety she carries around death and the afterlife, the tension she feels with Catholic rules and exclusion, and the thin thread she still senses connecting her to God.

Together, they reflect on her belief that most people are trying to do the right thing, her call into counselling, and the possibility that healing, belonging, and a different way of relating to death might still be ahead for her.

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