Kevin White joins Humble Pie to talk about the day he got fired — and everything that unraveled after. We get into what “influence” actually means, why most of us agree more than the internet wants us to think, and how building an in-person community in Chicago changed the way he sees connection. It’s a conversation about losing your footing, rebuilding on your own terms, and choosing real life over the algorithm.

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