In the fifth episode of the season we talked to Dr. Clémentine Deliss who works across the borders of contemporary art, critical anthropology, curatorial practice, and publishing. We talked about her curatorial beginnings and significant projects in her professional trajectory as an “artist to artist” curator. We also discussed her take on the exhibition that foregrounds and reflects a “conceptual intimacy”, where non-didactic learning, visual thinking and juxtapositions take center stage. Dr. Clémentine Deliss is Global Humanities Professor in History of Art, University of Cambridge, and Associate Curator at KANAL-Centre Pompidou in Brussels, where she runs the “Metabolic Museum-University”. Between 2020-23, she was Associate Curator at KW Institute for Contemporary Art Berlin. Her exhibition at KW “Skin in the Game” included seminal prototypes by Ruth Buchanan, Otobong Nkanga, Collier Schorr, Rosemarie Trockel, Joëlle Tuerlinckx and Andrea Zittel. Since 1996, she has published the artists and writers’ organ “Metronome”. In the introductory mini conversation we, Eloise and Kris, talk about our relationship to food, nourishment, AI friends and online communities. If you have feedback we’d love to receive your email at ihopethismessagefindsyouwell@gmail.com; you can also follow us on Instagram @ihopethismessage. The jingle was made by the artist Natalia Solzano and sound engineering by Nick Thomas. Graphic design by Christophe Clarijs. The episode was recorded in February 2024. SHOW NOTES: “Metabolic Museum-University” www.mm-u.online University of applied Arts Vienna, Ulay, Vito Acconci, Marina Abramović, Joseph Kosuth, Susan Hiller, Michael Oppitz, Valie Export, Rudi Fuchs, Kasper König, Harald Szeeman Hayward Gallery London DUACH, Mike Kelley, Rosemarie Trockel, Lubaina Himid, Jay Gorney, Jeff Koons “Lotte or the Transformation of the Object” https://formerwest.org/ResearchLibrary/LotteortheTransformationoftheObjectLotteoderderTransformationdesObjekts Haim Steinbach, Mr. Salt “Manifesto on Neighborly Dislike as Curatorial Critique” https://www.moussemagazine.it/magazine/manifesto-on-neighborly-dislike-as-curatorial-critique-clementine-deliss-2023/ “Skin in the Game” at KW Berlin https://www.kw-berlin.de/en/skin-in-the-game/ “Metronome, an artists’ and writers’ organ” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metronome_(artists%27_and_writers%27_organ) Paul Virilio, Issa Samb, Yinka Shonibare, Robert Loder, Gasworks London, Stuart Morgan, Artscribe magazine, John Akomfrah, June Givanni, Mark Sealy Africa95 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Africa95 “Seven Stories About Modern Art in Africa” https://contemporaryand.com/magazines/seven-stories-about-modern-art-in-africa/ El Hadji Sy, Chika Okeke, Wanjiku Nyachae Cédric Fauq Okwui Enwezor Frieze Mathis Esterhazy Dilijan Arts Observatory https://mm-u.online/project/arts-observatory/ Theaster Gates Ruth Buchanan, Otobong Nkanga, Collier Schorr, Joëlle Tuerlinckx, Andrea Zittel