The podcast for high achievers who seem to have it all, yet still feel something’s missing. Co-hosts Stephen and Adam bring humor, honesty, and a touch of mid-life wisdom to conversations about how work shapes our sense of self, and how we can reshape it to find greater meaning in work and life.
With careers spanning consulting, private equity, start-ups, and entrepreneurship, they share research-backed insights and real-world stories that help uncover new ways to drive more meaning each day. We’re excited to have you join us on this journey!
The podcast for high achievers who seem to have it all, yet still feel something’s missing. Co-hosts Stephen and Adam bring humor, honesty, and a touch of mid-life wisdom to conversations about how work shapes our sense of self, and how we can reshape it to find greater meaning in work and life.
With careers spanning consulting, private equity, start-ups, and entrepreneurship, they share research-backed insights and real-world stories that help uncover new ways to drive more meaning each day. We’re excited to have you join us on this journey!

In this episode of the Identity Work Podcast, hosts Adam Beasley and Stephen engage with guests Mac Bailey and Paul Kiekhaefer in a deep conversation about work existentialism, the challenges of turning 30, and the search for meaningful work. The discussion explores personal experiences with mortality, the journey into government work, and the realization that meaningful work is often created rather than found. The guests reflect on the importance of community, relationships, and the shift from macro aspirations to micro realities in their careers. They also tackle the balance between dreaming big and accepting the realities of life, emphasizing that true fulfillment often comes from personal connections and the impact we have on those around us.
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Work Existentialism
02:12 Facing Mortality at 30
06:20 The Search for Meaningful Work
11:34 Paths to Government Work
17:30 The Reality of Government Work
23:21 Reflections on Achievement and Happiness
28:50 The Ripple Effect of Energy
31:39 Dreaming Big: Expectations vs. Reality
34:36 The Role of Influence in Change
38:20 The Journey of Desires and Ambitions
40:40 Being vs. Doing: A Spiritual Perspective
42:44 The Parable of the Sower: Measuring Impact
49:19 Creating Meaningful Work