We are Stephen and Lori Saux and welcome to the If We Knew Then Podcast. We are parents of two children and one of them has Down Syndrome, Liam. When Liam was born we didn’t know very much about Down Syndrome and most of the information we did have didn’t seem very hopeful and positive. Well this podcast aims to share honest and useful conversations about supports, therapies, education and society as it pertains to Down Syndrome advocacy and parenting.
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We are Stephen and Lori Saux and welcome to the If We Knew Then Podcast. We are parents of two children and one of them has Down Syndrome, Liam. When Liam was born we didn’t know very much about Down Syndrome and most of the information we did have didn’t seem very hopeful and positive. Well this podcast aims to share honest and useful conversations about supports, therapies, education and society as it pertains to Down Syndrome advocacy and parenting.
194. That’s Not How It Happened: A Novel By Craig Thomas
If We Knew Then - Down Syndrome Podcast
59 minutes
2 weeks ago
194. That’s Not How It Happened: A Novel By Craig Thomas
In this episode, we sit down with How I Met Your Mother co-creator Craig Thomas to talk about his new novel, That’s Not How It Happened. The novel is about a family whose lives are thrown into turmoil when a Hollywood producer turns their story into a movie, forcing them to confront their differing perspectives on their past and the challenges of raising their son, Emmett, who has Down syndrome. It was inspired by Craig’s son, Elliott, who lives with a rare condition called Jacobsen Syndrome and is on sale starting November 4, 2025.
We were introduced to Craig through our dear friends Jenna Fischer and Angela Kinsey, the hosts of the Office Ladies podcast. Jenna and Angela have been such loyal supporters of If We Knew Then and we’re so grateful to them for connecting us with Craig. That introduction led to a heartfelt and honest conversation that we are excited to share with you.
You can order Craig Thomas's new book from major booksellers like Barnes & Noble, Amazon.com, HarperCollins Publishers, and other retailers.
Also, check out Craig’s How I Met Your Mother rewatch podcast called How We Made Your Mother, which he co-hosts with Josh Radnor.
Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2025/11/02/194-thats-not-how-it-happened-a-novel-by-craig-thomas/2/
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If We Knew Then - Down Syndrome Podcast
We are Stephen and Lori Saux and welcome to the If We Knew Then Podcast. We are parents of two children and one of them has Down Syndrome, Liam. When Liam was born we didn’t know very much about Down Syndrome and most of the information we did have didn’t seem very hopeful and positive. Well this podcast aims to share honest and useful conversations about supports, therapies, education and society as it pertains to Down Syndrome advocacy and parenting.
