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In The Money: eCommerce, DTC, and CPG
In The Money: eCommerce, DTC, and CPG
35 episodes
1 week ago
A podcast about the real economics of ecommerce, DTC, and CPG. Hosted by Fan Bi, In The Money features honest convos with the people building, growing, and investing in modern consumer brands.
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A podcast about the real economics of ecommerce, DTC, and CPG. Hosted by Fan Bi, In The Money features honest convos with the people building, growing, and investing in modern consumer brands.
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Business
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From Overlevered to Profitable: How &Collar Turned Debt into Discipline
In The Money: eCommerce, DTC, and CPG
45 minutes 15 seconds
2 months ago
From Overlevered to Profitable: How &Collar Turned Debt into Discipline

In this episode of In The Money, we sit down with Ben Perkins, Founder of &Collar, the fast-growing direct-to-consumer menswear brand known for reinventing the classic white dress shirt.Ben shares how &Collar went from being overlevered and on the brink, with $10M in revenue and $2M in debt, to becoming a profitable, eight-figure business growing double digits year-over-year. He talks candidly about:- The painful lessons of taking expensive MCA debt and refinancing through an SBA-backed bank loan- How he drove accountability by assigning every employee a personal P&L- The discipline of cutting Meta spend by 35% and still growing revenue- Unlocking new growth through wholesale and Amazon while holding the DTC line- Building a “rule of 40” business, growth plus profit, instead of chasing unicorn outcomes- The art of focusing on your “white shirt” equivalent and scaling the product that truly drives profitBen’s story is a masterclass in turning around a consumer brand, from financial literacy to capital discipline to smart channel expansion. If you run a $5–25M consumer brand and are looking to build something durable and profitable, this one’s for you.

In The Money: eCommerce, DTC, and CPG
A podcast about the real economics of ecommerce, DTC, and CPG. Hosted by Fan Bi, In The Money features honest convos with the people building, growing, and investing in modern consumer brands.