In this powerful and timely episode, Abe and Peterson dive into the heightened immigration climate unfolding across the country. The conversation explores recent federal statements that have deeply affected the Somali community, as well as the increased immigration enforcement actions reported in major cities from Los Angeles and Portland to Chicago, Charlotte — and the anticipated operations in Minneapolis.

Peterson reflects on how intensified enforcement creates fear and uncertainty for immigrant families, while Abe discusses the long history of shifting political attitudes toward immigration in America. Together, they unpack what these moments reveal about the resilience, strength, and unity of immigrant communities in 2025.

Thoughtful, informative, and deeply engaging, this episode highlights the courage immigrants continue to show in the face of pressure and negativity — and the lessons we’ve already learned about perseverance this year.

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