In this episode, the hosts explore what it means to lead and live with an abundance mindset, especially in contrast to scarcity, fear, and control. Through personal stories, faith-based reflections, and entrepreneurial experiences, they unpack how abundance shows up in decision-making, team dynamics, competition, finances, and time. The discussion is rich with vulnerability, wisdom from past failures, and an evolving understanding of trust, curiosity, courage, and what it takes to let go of fear while leading with generosity. The conversation ultimately reveals how a culture of abundance within teams and communities can spark growth, trust, and meaningful collaboration.
Key Topics:
- Abundance vs. scarcity mindset in leadership.
- Scarcity as fear; abundance as trust and faith.
- Letting go of control, embracing curiosity.
- Scarcity around time, money, and competition.
- How faith and past trauma (e.g. 2008 financial crisis) affect mindset.
- Shifting from protection to openness in business.- Building abundant communities and company cultures.
- The role of courage in shifting to abundance.
- Practical examples of abundance in hiring, planning, and collaboration.
- Living "above the line": detaching from outcomes.
Chapters:
00:00 – Defining abundance: the opposite of fear and control.
01:46 – Personal leadership lessons: father, husband, entrepreneur.
03:00 – Scarcity in early-stage business: a victim mindset.
05:45 – Scarcity in time and money, and helping others anyway.
06:50 – True abundance: giving without expecting anything in return.
09:03 – How fear of 2008 shaped mindset—and how it finally lifted.
13:00 – Leading annual planning with a heart of abundance.
15:14 – Quitting corporate to heal family: the leap into trust.
16:22 – Curiosity vs. being right: letting go of control.
18:00 – A heart change and rebuilding trust.
20:00 – The ripple effect of abundance in community and co-working.
22:01 – The power of abundant leadership teams.
23:20 – Courage as the tipping point from scarcity to abundance.
24:08 – Final reflections: letting go of “what’s in it for me”.