Peter Elwin interviews Robin Millington, CEO at Planet Tracker for the second episode in the countdown to COP. They will be talking about the intersection between natural capital and climate change. How do we get the same level of technical detail and progress on biodiversity loss as we have on climate change and should the finance community stop talking about them as different things?

Robin explains what the implications are for the financial sector if they ignore the importance of natural capital, and what needs to happen urgently to factor in this crucial concept. Is it too late for transformative change?

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