Deepfakes that fool the eye. Voices that sound real. Attacks that never sleep. As artificial intelligence reshapes both offence and defence, cyber risk has gone mainstream. In this episode of No Ordinary Wednesday, Jeremy Maggs speaks with Investec cybersecurity experts Nomalizo Hlazo and Tash van der Heever about the new era of digital resilience where trust, adaptability and awareness are your strongest defences. Podcast key moments 00:00 - Introduction 01:27 - AI on both sides – Attackers and defenders in the digital arms race 02:52 - 2025: The year cyber risk went mainstream 03:46 - Why digital risk is compounding 05:05 - Building resilience through third-party and supply chain visibility 07:15 - Regulation tightens – Balancing compliance and agility 08:57 - Critical infrastructure under threat 10:32 - Building digital trust in a diverse and connected market 11:48 - The future of cybersecurity: Integrity, speed, and adaptability 13:16 - Quantum computing, AI agents, and hyperconnectivity 13:58 - Cybersecurity as a life skill 14:56 - Closing remarks Read more on www.investec.com/now Hosted by seasoned broadcaster, Jeremy Maggs, the No Ordinary Wednesday podcast unpacks the latest economic, business, and political news in South Africa, with an all-star cast of investment and wealth managers, economists, and financial planners from Investec. Listen in every second Wednesday for an in-depth look at what's moving markets, shaping the economy, and changing the game for your wallet and your business.