Bob Killen, senior technical program manager at the Cloud Native Computing Foundation (CNCF), shares highlights from two survey reports released this week during KubeCon + CloudNativeCon North America 2025: The 2025 State of Cloud Native Development report and AI Tech Radar Report. According to Killen, the results show that cloud-native technology has become more accessible to back-end developers, and that AI development is closely tied to cloud-native infrastructure – even though AI engineers might not be aware of it. Featuring: Bob Killen, senior technical program manager, CNCF In today’s episode, we’ll cover… How many back-end developers and AI engineers consider themselves "cloud-native," and what that means What's behind increased hybrid cloud usage compared to previous years The relatively young AI projects organizations are already using in production and more! References: OpenTelemetry adapts to AI observability Model Context Protocol fever spreads in cloud-native world KubeCon + CloudNativeCon 2025 news coverage CNCF: AI is the new workload, cloud-native is the new OS To learn more about software development and platform engineering, check out Search IT Operations. To watch clips from our podcast, subscribe to our YouTube channel, @EyeOnTech.