Connect with Justin:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justin-itee-walker/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/justiniteewalkerFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/multiversetechnologypodcast Dr. John Lees, a PhD physicist turned healthcare innovator, joins the podcast to discuss his revolutionary new app, Your Copay, which aims to bring transparency to the murky world of U.S. healthcare pricing. Dr. Lees shares his incredible career trajectory—from computational physics to the CDC, to becoming a volunteer firefighter and Ironman triathlete. He explains the massive problem of price opacity in medicine, why healthcare debt is the leading cause of bankruptcy (and why it’s not dischargeable), and how his app empowers patients to “shop” for care just like they would for a car or groceries. By crowdsourcing data, Dr. Lees hopes to create an efficient market that drives costs down and quality up, giving power back to the patient. Connect with : JohnLinkedin:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnlees/Website:  https://www.yourcopay.com/ Chapters:00:00 – Intro: Dr. John Lees’ journey from physics to healthcare02:00 – From the CDC to founding Copay Technologies03:30 – What is the “Your Copay” app? (Waze for healthcare)04:30 – The problem: Buying healthcare without knowing the price06:00 – The crisis of high-deductible plans and surprise bills07:30 – Why healthcare debt is a trap you can’t escape09:00 – The disparity between the healthy and the chronically ill12:00 – Bringing transparency and capitalism to medicine15:00 – How crowdsourcing data can lower medical costs20:00 – Dr. Lees’ mission: Wellness as a basic human right