It’s Day Two of Matt LaFleur Watch, and Jen, Gabe & Chewy dig into the uncomfortable questions facing the Packers as contract extension talks loom.
With reporting indicating both sides want to get a deal done — but major gaps likely remain in years and money — the crew debates what LaFleur actually is as a head coach, and whether “good” is good enough in today’s NFL.
Key discussions include:
🏈 Is Matt LaFleur more than just a good coach?
The hosts agree LaFleur is an elite offensive designer and quarterback developer, but question whether he has proven he can:
Manage late-game situations
Hold players accountable
Get teams ready for the biggest moments
Seven seasons in, some issues remain unchanged — and that matters when talking about a long-term commitment.
💰 Why contract length may be the real holdup
The group suspects the negotiation comes down to:
LaFleur wanting five years
The Packers preferring three
That gap matters, especially if Green Bay is unsure he’s the coach who can lead them to a Super Bowl.
🔄 If you don’t believe, you have to move on
One core truth drives the debate:
If you don’t believe LaFleur can win a Super Bowl, then you have to find someone who can.
The crew reflects on how unpredictable coaching hires are — including how few people expected LaFleur to succeed when he was hired — and why firing a winning coach is always a massive gamble.
🧠 The assistant coach problem
A major frustration surfaces:
The Packers’ reluctance to spend money on assistants.
The discussion covers:
Why the offensive staff has barely changed in seven years
Why good assistants should be getting hired away if they’re truly impactful
How internal promotions can lead to stagnation
Why meaningful evolution often requires paying market value
🎙️ Jason Wilde joins later in the hour
Later, Jason Wilde joins to add context from inside the locker room:
Why star players publicly defending LaFleur matters
Why injuries can be an explanation without being an excuse
Why stability still holds real value — even in a results-driven league
⚖️ The bottom line
The hour ends with a simple challenge for the organization:
If LaFleur stays, something has to change — staff, structure, or expectations.
Because doing the same thing and hoping for a different postseason result isn’t a plan.
🎧 Thoughtful debate, real frustration, and a franchise-defining conversation — only on Jen, Gabe & Chewy.
Packers, Green Bay Packers, Matt LaFleur, Matt LaFleur contract, Packers coaching future, Packers offseason, Packers accountability, Packers playoff failures, Packers assistants, Brian Gutekunst, ESPN Milwaukee, Jen Gabe and Chewy
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It’s Day Two of Matt LaFleur Watch, and Jen, Gabe & Chewy dig into the uncomfortable questions facing the Packers as contract extension talks loom.
With reporting indicating both sides want to get a deal done — but major gaps likely remain in years and money — the crew debates what LaFleur actually is as a head coach, and whether “good” is good enough in today’s NFL.
Key discussions include:
🏈 Is Matt LaFleur more than just a good coach?
The hosts agree LaFleur is an elite offensive designer and quarterback developer, but question whether he has proven he can:
Manage late-game situations
Hold players accountable
Get teams ready for the biggest moments
Seven seasons in, some issues remain unchanged — and that matters when talking about a long-term commitment.
💰 Why contract length may be the real holdup
The group suspects the negotiation comes down to:
LaFleur wanting five years
The Packers preferring three
That gap matters, especially if Green Bay is unsure he’s the coach who can lead them to a Super Bowl.
🔄 If you don’t believe, you have to move on
One core truth drives the debate:
If you don’t believe LaFleur can win a Super Bowl, then you have to find someone who can.
The crew reflects on how unpredictable coaching hires are — including how few people expected LaFleur to succeed when he was hired — and why firing a winning coach is always a massive gamble.
🧠 The assistant coach problem
A major frustration surfaces:
The Packers’ reluctance to spend money on assistants.
The discussion covers:
Why the offensive staff has barely changed in seven years
Why good assistants should be getting hired away if they’re truly impactful
How internal promotions can lead to stagnation
Why meaningful evolution often requires paying market value
🎙️ Jason Wilde joins later in the hour
Later, Jason Wilde joins to add context from inside the locker room:
Why star players publicly defending LaFleur matters
Why injuries can be an explanation without being an excuse
Why stability still holds real value — even in a results-driven league
⚖️ The bottom line
The hour ends with a simple challenge for the organization:
If LaFleur stays, something has to change — staff, structure, or expectations.
Because doing the same thing and hoping for a different postseason result isn’t a plan.
🎧 Thoughtful debate, real frustration, and a franchise-defining conversation — only on Jen, Gabe & Chewy.
Packers, Green Bay Packers, Matt LaFleur, Matt LaFleur contract, Packers coaching future, Packers offseason, Packers accountability, Packers playoff failures, Packers assistants, Brian Gutekunst, ESPN Milwaukee, Jen Gabe and Chewy
What Went Wrong vs Baltimore? Packers Defense Gashed, Playoff Confidence Shaken
Jen, Gabe & Chewy
47 minutes
2 weeks ago
What Went Wrong vs Baltimore? Packers Defense Gashed, Playoff Confidence Shaken
The Packers fall 41-24 to the Ravens, and Jen, Gabe, and Chewy try to make sense of a team that feels battered, thin, and suddenly hard to trust heading into Week 18 vs the Vikings. Malik Willis flashes with big throws and three total touchdowns, raising real questions about what he’s earned, what he’s worth, and how Matt LaFleur’s game plan helped keep Green Bay alive. But the defense getting steamrolled for 300+ rushing yards sends the conversation into red-alert territory, especially with the playoffs looming and the Packers locked into the 7 seed. Should Green Bay rest anyone, and if so… who can they even afford to sit? Plus: Jordan Love’s concussion outlook, momentum vs health, Bears vs Eagles as the potential playoff opponent, and the Rashan Gary debate exploding after another quiet night.
Jen, Gabe & Chewy
It’s Day Two of Matt LaFleur Watch, and Jen, Gabe & Chewy dig into the uncomfortable questions facing the Packers as contract extension talks loom.
With reporting indicating both sides want to get a deal done — but major gaps likely remain in years and money — the crew debates what LaFleur actually is as a head coach, and whether “good” is good enough in today’s NFL.
Key discussions include:
🏈 Is Matt LaFleur more than just a good coach?
The hosts agree LaFleur is an elite offensive designer and quarterback developer, but question whether he has proven he can:
Manage late-game situations
Hold players accountable
Get teams ready for the biggest moments
Seven seasons in, some issues remain unchanged — and that matters when talking about a long-term commitment.
💰 Why contract length may be the real holdup
The group suspects the negotiation comes down to:
LaFleur wanting five years
The Packers preferring three
That gap matters, especially if Green Bay is unsure he’s the coach who can lead them to a Super Bowl.
🔄 If you don’t believe, you have to move on
One core truth drives the debate:
If you don’t believe LaFleur can win a Super Bowl, then you have to find someone who can.
The crew reflects on how unpredictable coaching hires are — including how few people expected LaFleur to succeed when he was hired — and why firing a winning coach is always a massive gamble.
🧠 The assistant coach problem
A major frustration surfaces:
The Packers’ reluctance to spend money on assistants.
The discussion covers:
Why the offensive staff has barely changed in seven years
Why good assistants should be getting hired away if they’re truly impactful
How internal promotions can lead to stagnation
Why meaningful evolution often requires paying market value
🎙️ Jason Wilde joins later in the hour
Later, Jason Wilde joins to add context from inside the locker room:
Why star players publicly defending LaFleur matters
Why injuries can be an explanation without being an excuse
Why stability still holds real value — even in a results-driven league
⚖️ The bottom line
The hour ends with a simple challenge for the organization:
If LaFleur stays, something has to change — staff, structure, or expectations.
Because doing the same thing and hoping for a different postseason result isn’t a plan.
🎧 Thoughtful debate, real frustration, and a franchise-defining conversation — only on Jen, Gabe & Chewy.
Packers, Green Bay Packers, Matt LaFleur, Matt LaFleur contract, Packers coaching future, Packers offseason, Packers accountability, Packers playoff failures, Packers assistants, Brian Gutekunst, ESPN Milwaukee, Jen Gabe and Chewy
