Cognitive scientist and author Donald Hoffman returns to share discoveries reshaping how we understand perception, consciousness, and reality itself. Drawing from evolutionary game theory and quantum physics, he reveals why we don’t see the world as it truly is—and what that means for science, spirituality, and awareness. Hoffman bridges rigorous mathematics with timeless wisdom, showing how awakening to truth means seeing through the interface of perception to what lies beyond.

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00:00 Intro

03:45 The Probability of Seeing the Truth

10:20 Fitness vs. Truth in Evolutionary Theory

17:30 The Limits of Our Perception

24:15 How Language Shapes Reality

31:10 States of Consciousness and Altered Perception

38:50 The Virtual Headset of Space and Time

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46:35 Physics Agrees: Spacetime Is Doomed

54:25 The Mystery of the Observer

1:02:10 No Theory of Everything

1:10:40 Consciousness vs. Physicalism

1:19:15 Neural Correlates and the Illusion of Causation

1:27:45 The Case for Consciousness as Fundamental

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1:36:20 From Science to Spirituality

1:45:10 Introducing Markov Chains

1:53:30 The Birth of Trace Logic

2:04:20 Time Dilation and the Mathematics of Perception

2:18:10 Beyond the Headset: Infinite Consciousness

2:36:30 Science, Mystery, and Humility

2:54:40 Conclusion

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