A Conversation on Grit, Mentorship, and the Future of Our CountryLong before Jason Chaffetz became a national political figure, a Fox News contributor, or a leading conservative voice, he was a kid who learned the value of hard work from early mornings, tough lessons, and the coaches and mentors who shaped his life.
In this episode of Know Your Ship, Jason sits down with Frank for a wide-ranging conversation on sports, service, citizenship, and the defining moments that built his character long before he ever entered public office.
Jason reflects on his unexpected path — from a high school soccer player who accidentally became a kicker, to walking onto BYU’s campus with a single bag in his car, to eventually serving in the United States Congress. He shares the mentors who made the difference, the experiences that taught him resilience, and the lessons he learned growing up in a family that valued effort, accountability, and personal responsibility.
Frank and Jason explore the state of American politics today, what unity actually looks like, and why the most important work often begins at home: teaching values, understanding sacrifice, and remembering the stories that shaped our nation.
Jason speaks candidly about his time in Congress, the realities behind the scenes, and why he believes service should be temporary, not a lifetime career. He also opens up about the future, including whether a return to public office might be part of what comes next.
What emerges is a conversation about leadership in every form — in family, community, career, and country. For anyone who cares about where America has been and where it is heading, this episode is a reminder that grit, gratitude, and good people still matter.
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