
In this episode of Off the Record, Natalka Cmoc speaks with Chrystia Freeland — Canada’s former Deputy Prime Minister and Special Representative on Ukraine’s Reconstruction — during her five-day mission in Kyiv.Freeland reflects on why the world must rethink its view of Ukraine: not only as a victim of Russia’s aggression, but as a fighter, a winner, and an innovator. She describes Ukraine as a “startup nation,” and explains why global investors should look at Ukraine as a place of resilience, creativity, and historic opportunity.Together, they discuss:– What Freeland’s reconstruction mission means in practice– Why Ukraine inspires the world with its determination to live– How underground schools, thriving theaters, and innovative businesses reflect national resilience– What investors should understand about Ukraine’s economic potential– How allies can better communicate Ukraine’s story to the worldA conversation about courage, innovation, and the future Ukraine is building even during war.