In this episode, Lisa and Mike dive into the controversial Neat Cell picosecond laser pen device, which claims to remove tattoos without scarring. Mike shares his skepticism about the device's effectiveness, explaining the technical limitations of picosecond lasers and the potential dangers of using such a product without proper safety measures.  KEY TAKEAWAYS Skepticism of Neat Cell Device: The Neat Cell picosecond laser pen device is met with skepticism regarding its claims of being a true picosecond laser, as it is likely just an LED or a low-powered laser diode that cannot effectively remove tattoos. Lack of Safety Measures: The device does not come with safety glasses, which raises concerns about eye safety, especially since the device emits intense blue light that can cause damage. Ineffective Tattoo Removal: Initial tests on the device suggest that while it may cause some disruption to tattoo ink, it also results in significant skin damage and scarring, which may mask the appearance of the tattoo rather than effectively removing it. Regulatory Action: The UK government has issued a product safety report banning the Neat Cell device from entering the UK market due to non-compliance with electrical safety regulations, indicating it is considered unsafe. Home Use Devices for Hair Removal: While skepticism exists around home-use devices for hair removal, some have been found to be effective when used consistently over time, suggesting that they can complement professional treatments rather than replace them. BEST MOMENTS "I am pretty sure this thing is probably not a laser. It's an intense blue light source, which is most likely an LED." "Imagine at the end of all that you said, so I'd recommend you help. No, no." "The UK government has issued a product safety report on this NeatSet device and they've stopped it from entering the UK." "If it looks too good to be true, then it usually is." "Let us know if you've used the IPL at home devices too." ABOUT THE HOSTS Mike began his career in medical lasers in 1986 with a physics degree and a post-grad in bioengineering. He helped develop the scar-free removal of tattoos using a Q-Switched Ruby Laser in Glasgow, and the world's first IPL system. Known well in the industry for his hard truths, no BS attitude and logical answers. As the author of three books, articles for medical journals, a well read blog, a Laser Protection Advisor and contributor to the BMLA, Mike is the Laser Guru. Lisa's claim to laser fame is being Mike's daughter. Growing up with lasers and never avoiding a physics lesson from her Dad, it was natural to enter the industry. Leaving a corporate career with a baby to jump into self employed life came with challenges. Despite that Lisa has been well recognised for her teaching style, practical tips, bringing the compassion to the science, and laser mentoring. Instagram: @dermalase_lasertraining https://mikemurphyblog.com https://www.dermalasetraining.com This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/