An interview with University of Wisconsin Law School Professor Emeritus William (Bill) Clune. Prof. Clune's research focused on school finance, school law, special education, and systemic educational policy. This podcast interview discusses his new book, Legal Realism to Law in Action: Innovative Law Courses at UW Madison, published Dec. 2021 by Pro Quo Books. It compiles articles and interviews focusing on 4 groundbreaking classes conceived and taught at UW Law School and the faculty responsible for them and their legacy.