In this episode of Leaders With Purpose, we sit down with Daniela Flores, co-founder of Purpose Union. This social purpose strategy firm helps major organisations, including BLab, NatWest, SKY, RFU, Unilever and Wellcome, tackle some of today’s most complex societal challenges. Instead of circling the usual “purpose talk,” Daniela takes us inside the real pressures modern leaders face: When should I speak? What if we get cancelled for choosing a side? How do we stay commercially strong and purpose-led? What does “being brave” actually look like when the risks feel huge? Daniela shares how purpose-driven organisations can find a voice that isn’t reactive, isn’t performative, and isn’t shaped by fear. From navigating geopolitical flashpoints to addressing DEI commitments, she explains how leaders can choose their lane without trying to comment on every issue or collapsing under public expectations. We also explore what purpose looks like in a “woke vs. anti-woke” climate, where companies are told to speak up and stay silent at the same time. Daniela offers a grounded way to decide what matters, when to show leadership, and how to hold your integrity even when the stakes feel high. The conversation moves between leadership tensions, parenting while leading a business, the rise of ethical AI, mentoring the next generation, and finding stability in a world that rewards outrage. It’s honest, warm and full of insight for anyone navigating modern leadership. Don’t forget to subscribe, leave a comment with your reflections, and share this with someone who’d love it. Connect with us: Rebecca Hull: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rebecca-hull-75a78b39/ Lou Lai: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louise-lai-3958962a/ Daniela Flores: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniela-flores-mprca-a12869/ Purpose Union: https://www.purposeunion.com/ manifesto: https://manifesto.co.uk/