In this episode of Learning From Leaders, we sit down with Mandy Ginsberg and Shar Dubey. These two women are trailblazing executives who each served as CEO of Match Group, the company behind Tinder, Match.com, OkCupid, and Hinge. Together, they reflect on their unlikely paths into tech leadership, building a startup from the ground up, and scaling Match into a global portfolio of brands. Their story is one of risk-taking, resilience, and redefining the rules of leadership.  Mandy and Shar share candid insights into their complementary styles, the power of asking for help, and why transparency and trust shaped Match’s culture. They also discuss the importance of mentorship, gender equity, and building diverse teams. They offer advice for rising leaders and talk about their continued work in health and wellness, including Mandy’s service on the Board of Southwestern Medical Foundation and involvement with the women’s health app, Flo.   Chapters:  00:00 – Intro 00:56 - Meet Mandy Ginsberg and Shar Dubey 02:00 - How Mandy and Shar First Joined Match 04:07 - Building Chemistry.com from Scratch 06:38 - Lessons in Scrappy Leadership 07:18 - Early Career Turning Points 10:00 - Scaling from Startup to Global Platform 12:21 - Managing a Portfolio of Dating Brands 13:40 - Taking Match Group Public 15:27 - Navigating COVID  17:11 - Lasting Changes from the Pandemic 19:32 - Building a Strong Executive Partnership 21:28 - Creating a People-First Culture 23:53 - Championing Equity in the Workplace 25:53 - Leadership Lessons and Personal Growth 28:11 - Why Shar Never Takes Notes 30:31 - Women in Leadership and the Path Forward 33:15 - Health, Transparency, and Board Service 36:31 - Advice for Aspiring Women Leaders 39:03 - Raising Your Hand and Knowing Your Value 40:21 - Mentorship and Mutual Respect 42:00 - Mandy’s Role at Flo and FemTech Growth 44:00 - Shar’s Work in Mental Health Innovation 45:30 - Why Mandy Joined Southwestern Medical Foundation 47:08 - Corporate Responsibility and Community Impact 48:10 - How to Get Involved and Give Back 50:17 - What They're Most Proud Of 52:32 - Rapid Fire Questions 59:00 - Closing Remarks    Episode Details:  Episode 7, Season 2  Host: Lili Clark | Vice Chair, The Cary Council; Senior Associate, LH Capital, Inc. / Lyda Hill Philanthropies - www.lydahillphilanthropies.org Guests:  Mandy Ginsberg | Former Match Group CEO (2017-2020) | www.mtch.com  Shar Dubey | Former Match Group CEO (2020-2022 | www.mtch.com  Producer: Dustin Magwire | Digital Media Senior Manager, Southwestern Medical Foundation - www.swmedical.org Videography: Brazos Film & Video - www.brazosfilms.com    Disclaimer:  The Southwestern Medical Foundation Podcast is intended solely for educational purposes.  Nothing contained therein constitutes, nor should be interpreted as medical, healthcare, financial or legal advice.    Southwestern Medical Foundation strives for accuracy in its publications, including the Podcast.  However, due to the nature of the topics discussed, there frequently is not a clear-cut “right answer.”  Consequently, Southwestern Medical Foundation cannot guarantee the accuracy or sufficiency of any information presented.  The views of the hosts and guests are their own and do not necessarily represent the views or opinions of their employers or affiliated organizations, nor Southwestern Medical Foundation, the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center or the University of Texas System.  The inclusion of any guest or mention of any product or service does not constitute an endorsement thereof, nor of any company, employer, or organization with which the guest, product, or service is affiliated.