This week I got the absolute legend to join me on record — if you know me, you love her, and if you don't know me, you will love her: it's the woman who managed to survive parenting me, my Mom, Renate 🎙️! AND this is the very first Liv Long episode (translation: it’s longer than ten minutes because apparently adulting takes a while to explain).

We’re talking about “losing your training wheels,” a.k.a. that terrifying moment when you realise your parents aren’t going to make your decisions forever (tragic, I know). From choosing your own path to owning your mistakes to finally admitting ChatGPT can’t solve your entire life… we cover it all.

Think of this as part sequel to last week’s “stop trying to prove yourself to your parents” episode, part comedy show, and part free therapy session with the van Onselen women.