Conversations to inspire expansion and growth.
Welcome to the Live+Work More Human podcast (formerly We Are Human Leaders), Co-hosted by Alexis Zahner and Sally Clarke. The home of big ideas, bold conversations and brave questions on all things work, life and leadership.
We focus on what’s novel: new takes on leadership, new research and insights, new ways of looking at things.
We share stories, data, inspiration and insight in conversations designed to spark ‘aha’ moments – and empower you to create change, live and lead authentically, and build workplaces where people thrive.
Join us, and be the change you want to see at www.liveandworkmorehuman.com
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Conversations to inspire expansion and growth.
Welcome to the Live+Work More Human podcast (formerly We Are Human Leaders), Co-hosted by Alexis Zahner and Sally Clarke. The home of big ideas, bold conversations and brave questions on all things work, life and leadership.
We focus on what’s novel: new takes on leadership, new research and insights, new ways of looking at things.
We share stories, data, inspiration and insight in conversations designed to spark ‘aha’ moments – and empower you to create change, live and lead authentically, and build workplaces where people thrive.
Join us, and be the change you want to see at www.liveandworkmorehuman.com
Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this conversation, author and expert Megan Reitz discusses the dangers of busyness in modern leadership and the importance of spacious thinking and mindfulness. She emphasizes the need for leaders to create environments that foster spaciousness, allowing for better decision-making, creativity, and well-being. The discussion covers practical steps to integrate spacious thinking into daily routines and highlights the future of leadership in a rapidly changing world.
Chapters
00:00 The Dangers of Busyness
07:50 Understanding Mindfulness in the Workplace
14:06 The Irony of Productivity and Spaciousness
16:29 Exploring Spacious Thinking
21:01 The Power of Spaciousness
29:19 Creating Space in Leadership
37:17 The Future of Work and Spacious Thinking
41:29 Practical Steps to Invite Spaciousness
Learn more about Professor Megan Reitz, including where to connect with her, right here https://www.wearehumanleaders.com/podcast/escaping-busyness-trap-megan-reitz
As Human Leaders we’re seeking to lead better, living truer, and being the change we want to see in the world. This is how we recreate workplaces, and the world into a place where people flourish and thrive. Human first, leader second. Thanks for listening to the episode!
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