In this episode, Jon (@JonPiccini) has a long delayed conversation with Shan Windscript (@ShanWindy), Phd student at University of Melbourne and organiser, who has played key roles in the fight for casual workers in the tertiary sector and the rights of international students. We talk about how the Coronavirus has served to weaponise long standing fears about China in Australia, how supporting movements for change in Hong Kong is not incompatible with working for political and economic rights on the mainland, and how Shan’s research on the inner lives of everyday activists in Maoist China undermines attempts to present the present CCP regime as omnipotent. Shan's writing includes Can Chinese Students Abroad Speak? Asserting Political Agency amid Australian Nationalist Anxiety How to Write a Diary in Mao’s New China: Guidebooks in the Crafting of Socialist Subjectivities Music by RE-Tros